Slow Milers - that is Great Runners who were slow in High School

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     Note: A couple of 4:19's are listed for the possibility they might
be 
     1600 times.  When noted, they are definately 1600 times.  
     
                             Olympic Champions
     Frank Shorter      9:39.3  4:30+      2:10:30
     Dave Wottle        4:20.2             1:45.86,3:53.3
                            Past World Record Holders
     Buddy Edelen       4:28               2:14 WR 
     Dick Buerkle       4:28               3:54.93i WR
                             Current American Record Holders
     Bob Kempainen      4:21+ (1600)       2:08:30 AR
     Mark Nenow         4:20/9:17          27:20 AR
     
                            Past American Record Holders
     Bill Rodgers       4:28.8/9:36.1       2:09:27 
     Greg Fredericks    4:20                28:08 10k
                          1995 National Champions
     Paul Mcmullen      4:19.9(1600)        3:34.45
     Mark Croghan       9:20.5 (2 mile)      8:09.76 Steeple 
                         4:10 1600m
     Brandon Rock       1:56 800            1:44.97
                             Formerly World Ranked
     Tom Byers          4:21                3:50.84 
     Niall O'Shaughnessy 4:39               3:55.4
                               
                               Olympians
     Jeff Galloway        4:28/9:48      13:41 28:29
     Ken Martin           1:58/4:19      8:23 steeple, 2:09:38
     Benji Durden         4:36.8/10:00   2:09:57
     Mark Coogan          4:20           13:23/28.23/2:13.24
     
                             US Ranked
     Mike Roche          4:23               8:30 steeple 
     Amby Burfoot        9:39(? mile)       2:14:29 PR 
     Erik Nedeau         4:12(1500)         3:38.24
     
                            More Studs-Past and Present
     Bill Donakowski       4:19.3            13:39/28:25 at U Michigan 
     Dan Mayer             9:42  4:26         28:19 13:53
     Gary Giffen-UConn     4:25 9:25         indoor 5000 NCAA Qualifier 
     Jack Dwyer-Dartmouth  4:25  9:33        All American indoor 5000 
     Craig Longhurst       4:22 9:41          29:45.54 10k
     Eric Mack-Air Force   4:18.94(1600)       3rd 1995 NCAA X-C
     Bob Evans-Weber      >4:20              29:22 10,000 8:47 Steeple 
     Mike Skinner-Arkansas 4:20.3           29:48 10k,2:19:38(Marathon)
     Craig Lawson-BYU       ???             29:15 10k
     (I'd relent on this one if someone knows better, but I never saw
him 
     go under 4:20)  from Philip_Ponebshek@radian.com

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High School Improvement List

Improvements from High School times to pr's


                  HS          all time PR      Secs improve
Roger Bannister     4:52.0          3:59.4        52.4
Scott Strand        4:50            4:00+         50    **
Liam O'Neil         4:50            4:02??        48
John M. Landy       4:43.8          3:58.0        45.8
Dick Beurkle        4:36            3:55          41
Brian Culley        4:51            4:19          32
Tom Byers           4:21            3:50          31
Finn Pincus         4:53            4:22+         31
Paul McMullen       4:21.5+         3:51.7+       29.8
Dave Wottle         4:22??          3:53          29
Mark Beeman         4:27            4:00          27
Jamey Harris        4:19+           3:54.90       24
Tom Carleo          4:23+           4:00+(3:41.9) 23+
Steve Scott         4:10+           3:47          23
Paul Talbot         4:38            4:16          22
John Jordan         4:24            4:02          22
Mark Coogan         4:20            3:58          22
John Schiefer       4:20            3:59+         21
Steve Holman        4:10+           3:49+         21
Bill Burke          4:14            3:53+(3:35)   21
Buck Jones          4:17            3:57          20
Brian Gallagher     4:18+           3:59          19
Darren Shearer      4:18            3:59          19
Marc "doc" Davis    4:13            3:54          19
Joe Falcon          4:08.24         3:49.31       18.93
Phil Lussier        4:16?           3:58+         18
Jim Spivey          4:06.2          3:49.80       16.4
Paul Cummings       4;10.7          3:56.4        14.3
John Gregorek       4:05.4          3:51.34       14.06
Ken Popejoy         4:09.3          3:57.00       12.3
Mike Durkin         4:08.3          3:56.70       11.6
Bob Kennedy         4:06            3:56          10
Marty Liquori       3:59.8          3:52.2         7.6
Matt Centrowitz     4:01.27+        3:54.9         6.4
Jim Ryun            3:55            3:51           4
Time Danielson      3:59.4          3:59.4         0
Gerry Lindgren      4:01.5          4:01.5         0
Rich Kimball        4:02.4          4:02.4?        0

Alan Webb           3:53.43         ??????
This is an interesting list, its not necessarily better to be on the top or the bottom. I'm really only interested in people who have broken 4:00 minutes or the metric equivalent 3:41.45 or T&F's 3:42.2 here are two great lists sub 4 milers and sub 4 milers chronologically

If you are on those lists please submit me your HS pr and I will add you to this list. Thanks
Patrick E. Hoffman back to XC,Track and Running Analysis