-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Hubler [mailto:dhubler@viscern.com] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:49 PM To: phoffman@cs.uml.edu Subject: Another 4:0 8 Miler Hi, I searched "cross country" and came across your site. Very enjoyable. Thanks. I notice that a runner from my high school was not listed among your best times for milers. In 1968 Scott Hiles ran a 4:08 in the Golden West Invitational in San Francisco. Scott had never run before he tried out for the track team at Madison Heights High School in Anderson, Indiana. The track coach saw this kid running on the roads one winter day with towels pinned around his legs with safety pins. He was too poor to afford sweat pants. The coach talked him to coming out for the track team. By the end of the season, his first remember, he won the state mile and two mile. He won the national race in San Fran. He still holds the high school record for the mile and two mile, set in 1968. His two mile time was 8:56. He went to Indiana University and ran for Coach Sam Bell. Scott loved the mile and no other distance. Coach Bell had other runners who could win the mile so he put Scott in the two mile to score more team points. Scott only wanted to run the mile. I watched him run at Ball State University in the two mile. When he got to the mile, he stopped and walked off the track. It was "let me run the mile, or I quit." Coach Bell must have forced the issue, because Scott quit. Here we have a 19-year-old kid who could run a 4:04 mile as a sophomore in college, who quit, and never went back to running. I hope you can verify his mile time and list him on the best mile times list. Again, thanks for the site. Daniel Hubler