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From: Bob Lechner <lechner@cs.uml.edu>
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Subject: Re: Redhat's opinion of imake (migrate to the GNU autotools system)?.
To: omacneil@cs.uml.edu (Dan MacNeil)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:31:45 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: lechner@cs.uml.edu (Bob Lechner), admin@cs.uml.edu, ken@cs.uml.edu (Ken Kleiner)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0607101926480.22411@mercury.cs.uml.edu> from "Dan MacNeil" at Jul 10, 2006 08:12:36 PM
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[yum ???]

I know imake is deprecated/worse than autottools,etc.
thanks to your web link postings last year.

I feel a healthy respect for platform independence
is worth-while to illustrate to students,
if only via linux/unix diffs.

I spent weeks making bde buildable with 2 versions of 
auto-generated non-X11 C-code on two platforms using
xmkmf[no]log.csh and $HOSTTYPE with a single 
unduplicated version of X11-dependent C++ code.

It can build 4 ways almost completely in parallel now.  
However it still doesn't handle timestamp-dependence 
efficiently.

I hate to do it again with autotools but more efficiency 
would be worth it.

Unfortunately I have no idea which UML/CS hosts if any 
already have X11/R7 and/or GNU autotools. Do you?

Bob Lechner

> From omacneil@cs.uml.edu  Mon Jul 10 20:12:36 2006
> Subject: Redhat's opinion of imake 
> 
> omacneil@mercury:
> 
>  	# output from yum info imake
> 
> Loading "installonlyn" plugin
> Setting up repositories
> core                                                                 [1/3]
> updates                                                              [2/3]
> extras                                                               [3/3]
> Reading repository metadata in from local files
> Available Packages
> Name   : imake
> Arch   : i386
> Version: 1.0.1
> Release: 3
> Size   : 322 k
> Repo   : core
> Summary: imake source code configuration and build system
> Description:
>   Imake is a deprecated source code configuration and build system which
> has traditionally been supplied by and used to build the X Window System
> in X11R6 and previous releases.  As of the X Window System X11R7 release,
> the X Window system has switched to using GNU autotools as the primary
> build system, and the Imake system is now deprecated, and should not be
> used by new software projects.  Software developers are encouraged to
> migrate software to the GNU autotools system.
>