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From: gowj@alpha.acast.nova.edu (Big Jim)
Subject: Re: comp.lang.logo FAQ for December, '93, 2 of 2
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bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) writes:

>dal3@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (dale.e.parson) writes:
>>December, 93 comp.lang.logo FAQ, Part 2 of 2
>>14: How can kids use Logo for AI work?
>> [...]
>>   Since Papert felt the existing languages LISP and
>>   FORTRAN were not suitable for elementary AI work with third
>>   or fifth graders he convinced a group at BBN (Bolt, Beranek
>>   an Newman) for which he was doing consulting to create a new
>>   language for children.
>>   [James Gow <gowj@novavax.nova.edu>]

>Although Papert's role in the development of Logo was certainly
>crucial, I think this sentence somewhat overstates it, and understates
>that of Wally Feurzeig, who organized that group at BBN to create a
>programming language for kids, and who gave Logo its name.

Remember this came right out of Seymours book! I have read the
Feurzeig article, talked to Paul Wexelblat and have asked for a
verification from Paul, Seymour and sent e-mail to wally.
Having recieved no response I let the sentence stand.

>A third leader of the initial Logo group was Dan Bobrow, the most
>expert AI programmer of the group, and who I believe led the actual
>implementation effort.

There is no argument from me on Bobrow, however I wish he would
drop in and respond to his role in the implementation. Does he
have any literature addressing the events? I would like to see
the FAQ history as accurate as possible. I believe he is a
memeber of AAAI and his e-mail address is listed. If anyone would
like to contact him and get him to read our FAQ history and make
a contribution it would be greatly appreciated.

>On the other hand, Logo has changed a lot since that first version, and
>most of the later development happened at MIT, unquestionably led by Papert.
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